BillyBoy Administrator Posts: 1401
6/26/2017
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UPDATE:
After spending the entire day trying to get a concrete answer about how players who win an entry but want to team up with someone else who won an entry should go about this task, it seems that the people at the top don't want to give a specific answer. This has led the Arizona representative to tell me to advise all AZ players who have won to simply respond and ensure they are signed up. He said that he will make sure those who want to team up can do so.
So that is the main point here. For those who simply want to know what to do next, the answer is:
GO SIGN UP NOW by responding to the email!
The following is merely a little commentary on the situation, for those interested...
The only real downside to this is that it may cost the event a number of teams. From the players short term point of view, less players means a better chance to win. All good, right? But having a full event of 128 teams has greater value to the sponsor, which increases the chance of them doing more such things in the future.
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Ship Of Foos Posts: 11
6/27/2017
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Wow, really confused now. I received the email yesterday and replied that my teammate had also received an email and responded and wasn't sure I should accept or not since he had already accepted, asked them to advise status. Now today I got a second email saying I was selected and have until noon tomorrow to respond. Seems like they didn't really think this through...
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BillyBoy Administrator Posts: 1401
7/10/2017
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UPDATE:
As some of you know, I was in dispose for the entire weekend and unable to get to my computer, etc. Anyway, here is the condensed version of the background and current state of the AZ El Jimador event. Hopefully this will clear up some confusion and anxiety over this event. Sorry it took awhile to get to this point, but I think after you read this, you will all be happy with what is planned for the next month
The event is being organized both from a high, national level (El Jimador), and from the local level (in our case, local Arizona distributor Breakthru Beverage). Those at the top composed the promotion purely from the point of view of a tequila company promoting its product. They have little knowledge of the game of foosball, and therefore, the event was designed as more of a sweepstakes than a foosball tournament. On the other hand, the local AZ organizer (Steve M.) does have a little bit of foosball experience, and wanted to try to pull this off as a somewhat bona fide foosball event. For this reason, he originally contacted me and has been in touch with me over the past few weeks in an effort to make the event as successful and popular as possible. However, he did not technically have control over the mechanics of the operation.
Until now!
Several of the other regions hosting the event across the country did not manage to register enough players - especially among the primary demographic they were seeking (millennials). As a result, they changed their format - reducing the event to a single qualifier that is essentially a big El Jimador party with random El Jimador drinkers playing for the right to meet in the final. They also wanted to do the same in Arizona. However, due to our comparatively large number of registrants, Steve was able to talk the big dogs into letting him conduct 3 of the scheduled primaries as previously planned, while El Jimador will still host the "party" qualifier in week 4 with a different rule set. More importantly, Steve was also (finally) given control of the whole process.
So that is the back story leading up to where we are right now.
Moving forward...
Many of you may have received an e-mail recently asking you to name your partner, and list your preferences for qualifier date & venue. You may have also been given a deadline to respond. First and foremost, DO NOT PANIC! As of this moment, you do not need to worry about the deadline. Steve has assured me that he is committed to including everyone that responded. Now that he and I are both back in town after a very long weekend, we plan to spend the next few days piecing together the team list, and you will hear from one or both of us again shortly.
Also, we will very likely admit some more players in order to completely fill the event(s). In addition, we are still deciding whether to allow players to compete in more than one of the qualifiers. This will be finalized within a couple days.
So sit back, relax, and get ready for an exciting tournament! More to come very soon
Bill Nolan AZ Foosball edited by BillyBoy on 7/10/2017
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BillyBoy Administrator Posts: 1401
7/15/2017
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UPDATE:
The local organizer, Steve Musslin, sent the following e-mail on July 14 to all of the players who won an entry to the El Jimador event. (I've enclosed it here for completeness, and because some players may not have received the mail.)
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Good Afternoon Everyone,
Here are the updates for the upcoming $5000 winner take all Foosball Tournament sponsored by El Jimador Tequila.
Thank you all for your participation and getting the information in on a timely matter. We REALLY appreciate it. You and your team member are locked into this tournament. We fell a little short on the amount of teams we thought we would get signed up for the upcoming tournaments. We are going to adjust the program to fix the lack of teams. This adjustment will actually benefit some of you and increase your chances to get in the final tournament for the overall $5000 prize.
We will still be having the 3 lead up tournaments...
- Duke’s Bar and Grill, 7-22-2017
- Stinger’s Bar and Grill, 7-29-2017
- Loft Again, 8-5-17
The adjustment is that now your team has 3 chances to make the final tournament on August 19th at The Park Street Food bar in down town phoenix. All of the teams signed up for this tournament are welcome to play in all 3 lead up tournaments.
The top 2 teams from each week will have a spot in the final
- If you place in the top 2 in week 1 at Dukes you are locked in and cannot play in the other 2 lead up tournaments. Your place is in the final will already be secure.
- If you do not place in the top 2 in week 1 you have two more chances to make the final and are welcome to come back to the next week’s tournament at Stingers to try again.
- After week 2 at Stingers there will be one more shot for the remaining teams at Loft Again to compete for a spot in the final.
- The Final on August 19th at The Park Street Food Bar will consist of 8 teams. 6 teams from our 3 lead up tournaments and 2 teams from another program being ran by El Jimador.
I hope this answers all of your questions but if you need any clarification please send me an email and I will try and answer it.
Remember you need to be there by 6:45PM to sign in. Games will start at 7PM. Make sure you bring your ID. (These times are the same for all 3 tournaments)
So I hope to see you all at Duke’s next Saturday, if you can’t make it to Duke’s remember you still have 2 other chances to play.
Good luck to everyone and thanks again for your participation in this program.
Stephen A. Musslin [email protected]
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BillyBoy Administrator Posts: 1401
7/15/2017
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UPDATE:
There were also a couple e-mails sent to participants (on July 7) addressing the rules, and answering questions about the event structure. Here they are: ---------------------------------------------------------
FUTBOLITO EL JIMADOR GAME RULES
1. Each game will be 10 minutes long or first team to 10. If there is a tie after 10 minutes we go to sudden death goal. 2. Flip a coin. A coin flip decides who serves the foosball to start the foosball game and the side of the table they want to be in. 3. After the first goal is scored, the team who was last scored on gets to serve the next ball. The foosball must be touched by a man before the ball goes into a goal for a legal goal to occur. 4. Any jarring, sliding, or lifting of the table shall be illegal. The penalty for violation of this rule:
- First Offense - whoever incurs on this illegal activity the other team will be in title to re serving the ball.
- Subsequent violation, the opposite team will be awarded one goal.
5. Dead Balls - If a foosball stops in the middle of two opposing team rods, the ball must be picked up and reserved. The serve goes back to the team that was last scored on. If a dead ball occurs on the defensive side of the table behind the defensive 2 bar, the defensive player must move the ball back into playing position. 6. Players are not allowed to retain the ball for more than 15 seconds. 7. Out of Play - If a ball comes off the table area or hits a top rail and comes back into the table area, the ball is ruled out of play and must be reserved by the team that was last scored on. 8. No time outs are allow during the game 9. The tournament system will be by direct elimination. 10. Teams are requested to be at the venue 15 minutes before their tournament starts. In case they fail to reach the venue on time, they will be immediately disqualified. 11. Players are expected to behave accordingly. In case they disrespect the rules of the game or the other team, they will be immediately disqualified. 12. Each game will have a ref to overlook the time of the game and make judgment calls when needed.
MISCELLANOUS Q & A:
Q: Will it be single or double elimination? A: Single
Q: Will you have timers at each table to monitor the 10 minute time limit? A: I do not believe we will have visual timers, we will give a 5 min, 2 min and 1 min warning during the game.
Q: How many qualifying teams will reach the final from each event? A: 8 Teams will reach the final. Top 2 from each tournament and will be seeded accordingly
Q: If a team plays in an event and does not qualify can they play in the next qualifying event? A: As of right now you only have one shot, in the event we do not have enough teams to fill all the tournaments we will re-evaluate.
Q: Will all the events be played on Tornado tables? A: Yes
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pinalyzer Administrator Posts: 122
7/18/2017
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Rhett and I will not be able to attend the Duke's tourney on the 22nd, but I look forward to hearing how it went. For sure we will be at Stingers on the 29th edited by pinalyzer on 7/19/2017
-- Pinalyzer You have been Pinalized
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BillyBoy Administrator Posts: 1401
7/19/2017
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SWEET!!! Just kidding, John! Look forward to seeing you next week.
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