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9/17/2009 Topic: Tucson vs. Phoenix Sept. 19, 2009 BillyBoy Administrator	Should we use this or your NetFoos point list (which, for most Tucson players, should be more accurate)?
9/17/2009 Topic: Tucson vs. Phoenix Sept. 19, 2009 BillyBoy Administrator	Just a reminder that we have specifically targeted the event schedule for this upcoming Tucson/Phoenix tournament. We are making a strong effort to eliminate conflicts and late starts, etc. by both adding tables and spreading out the time between events. This should result in less waiting around to play, and also hopefully eliminate the need to play "race-to-7" style games in the loser brackets. Anyhow, with that said, I just wanted to post this as a pleasant reminder, and also to stress that we intend to start the first event AT THE SCHEDULED TIME (3:30), so please make sure to get there early! Bill Nolan AZ Foos
9/17/2009 Topic: REMINDER: Tucson-Phoenix Schedule will rock! BillyBoy Administrator	Just a reminder that we have specifically targeted the event schedule for this upcoming Tucson/Phoenix tournament. We are making a strong effort to eliminate conflicts and late starts, etc. by both adding tables and spreading out the time between events. This should result in less waiting around to play, and also hopefully eliminate the need to play "race-to-7" style games in the loser brackets. Anyhow, with that said, I just wanted to post this as a pleasant reminder, and also to stress that we intend to start the first event AT THE SCHEDULED TIME (3:30), so please make sure to get there early! Bill Nolan AZ Foos
9/21/2009 Topic: Monday night Hi-Lo BillyBoy Administrator	They are hip to it.
9/21/2009 Topic: Tucson/Phoenix Tourney BillyBoy Administrator	For the future my vote is on pay out 1 through 3. Interesting how these comments always seem to come from someone who coincidentally landed in that spot. J/K Anyhow, 5/6 paid $10/person, I think. Also, there are arguments for paying deeper, as well. And I think the argument for paying only 1-3 would be much stronger if there were no money added. I think it was about right, and it's only a couple bucks difference anyhow, so no real biggie. <em>edited by BillyBoy on 9/21/2009</em>
10/5/2009 Topic: Tucson local points for October BillyBoy Administrator	I know what he's talking about. (Zeke, that's supposed to be spelled "pole" in that context... )
10/16/2009 Topic: New Mesa Foos Location! BillyBoy Administrator	Kind of funny that this location has the same name as the main Tucson spot...
10/17/2009 Topic: Monday night Hi-Lo BillyBoy Administrator	How about doing this event at Main St. Billiards in Mesa? We have two tables there, and I know they're into it. I can see about getting them to kick some money in...
10/25/2009 Topic: Phoenix 10/24/2009 BillyBoy Administrator	DYP ----------------------------- 1-Nick B./Dan M.-$90 2-Scott Y./Cowboy-$50 3-T.J./Jeff H. 4-Rich L./John S. 5-Mike S./Mark D. SINGLES ----------------------------- 1-Nick B.-$30 2-Dan M.-$15 3-T.J. 4-Jeff H. 5-Mike S. 5-Mark D. 7-Rich L.
10/25/2009 Topic: Mesa "Monday Night Foosball" Starts Nov. 2! BillyBoy Administrator	Attention: East-side foosers! New weekly tournament, Monday nights at 7:00pm in Mesa at Main St. Billiards 1749 W Main St. Mesa, AZ 85201 --------------------------------------------------------------------- MONDAY NIGHT FOOSBALL $5 entry fee. 7:00pm start time. Starts next Monday, November 2, 2009. This tournament has been scheduled as a Hi-Low style event. This means that players of all skill levels will have a reasonable chance to fair well in the event. First week KICKOFF BONUS! Main St. Billiards will be adding $3 per player to the event, and Arizona Foosball will also add another $50. --------------------------------------------------------------------- As many of you know, Main St. Billiards is our newest location, so let’s try to impress them with a good turnout at this first event. Grab a friend or two and head on over next Monday – hope to see you there for some foos and good times. The tournament director for this event is John Scully (whom you may know as “J.B.”). You can reach him at 480-248-5365 (sending a text is the best option). Bill Nolan (602) 751-8818 John “J.B.” Scully (480) 248-5365 <em>edited by BillyBoy on 10/27/2009</em>
10/25/2009 Topic: Mesa "Monday Night Foosball" Starts Nov. 2! BillyBoy Administrator	Attention: East-side foosers! New weekly tournament, Monday nights at 7:00pm in Mesa at Main St. Billiards 1749 W Main St. Mesa, AZ 85201 --------------------------------------------------------------------- MONDAY NIGHT FOOSBALL $5 entry fee. 7:00pm start time. Starts next Monday, November 2, 2009. This tournament has been scheduled as a Hi-Low style event. This means that players of all skill levels will have a reasonable chance to fair well in the event. First week KICKOFF BONUS! Main St. Billiards will be adding $3 per player to the event, and Arizona Foosball will also add another $50. --------------------------------------------------------------------- As many of you know, Main St. Billiards is our newest location, so let’s try to impress them with a good turnout at this first event. Grab a friend or two and head on over next Monday – hope to see you there for some foos and good times. The tournament director for this event is John Scully (whom you may know as “J.B.”). You can reach him at 480-248-5365 (sending a text is the best option). Bill Nolan (602) 751-8818 John “J.B.” Scully (480) 248-5365 <em>edited by BillyBoy on 10/27/2009</em>
10/25/2009 Topic: Wildcard Playoff Matches BillyBoy Administrator	AZ Foosball Summer League Playoffs start this week! Come check out the action… Western Conference Wildcard Match 7:00 pm, Tuesday, October 27 Foos Brothers vs. Itsnotu.com (@ Clicks Billiards) Eastern Conference Wildcard Match 7:00 pm, Wednesday, October 28 Upper Deckers vs. Tumbleweeds (@ Main St. Billiards) <em>edited by BillyBoy on 10/25/2009</em>
10/29/2009 Topic: Mesa "Monday Night Foosball" Starts Nov. 2! BillyBoy Administrator	How about if I point some fingers? Like, for instance, at those who criticize everything they see without bothering to take the time to understand what they see. the one year i played in the league i had a 3.5 rating. Somehow Billy decided to just give me something like a five something, what do you have me at? Maybe you can post the list? You ended the last league you played with a 3.2 rating. This season, we raised ALL players by a full point (for a very simple reason, which I don't doubt you would misinterpret like everything else), which brought you to 4.2. So: a) Billy did not just "decide" to give you a "five something" b) You do not have a "five something" c) You never had a "five something" d) your rating was changed along with everyone else's e) the list is always posted on this site So, in two short sentences you have managed to be completely wrong about 4 or 5 different things. Yet, you bravely go on: As you probably know from my latest posts I don't like random decided stuff (whoever wants me to go into details and point fingers let me know, I won't be shy!). They are lots of people who don't come out on Saturday because of that shit going on. What is this about? Please elaborate on your eloquently presented "random decided stuff". Point some fingers! And see if you can do it without distorting and inventing facts. About the only thing I can even remotely imagine is your obsession with the payouts. And on that note, I have these points: a) They aren't random. If you took the time to look at the dispersion over all the tournaments, you'd see they follow a pretty consistent pattern. Hey, maybe you would prefer to utilize some exact formula or bring your calculator along, but I have this thing about prioritizing what I do with my time, and would rather not waste it worrying about a dollar or two out of 200 or so. b) I have managed to get the bars to add a nice chunk of money to the Saturday tournaments, ALL of which goes straight to the players. But keep on looking that gift horse in the mouth, man. Because now that you've got me thinking about it, I don't see why I don't take a cut of that for myself or whomever runs the tournament and deals with all the complainers for 6 hours. What do you think? c) I couldn't give one shit about payout money. The money is rather trivial, and if it matters that much to someone, I feel sorry for that person. Hell, I have hardly even been getting in the money myself for awhile, so any kind of insinuation about me manipulating payouts doesn't seem to make much sense, does it? Maybe you could introduce me to this mystical entity that is "benefiting" from this. d) If there are lots of people who don't come out because of "shit like this", I am glad to hear it! Because I doubt I speak for only myself when I say that we don't need "shit like them". And their time is certainly better spent at home on the couch, bong in hand, solving real problems and producing all kinds of things that society finds useful. Or maybe you are referring to the night that you showed to the Hi-Lo and I didn't have your rating on hand, so I made my best estimate. This was simply an oversight on my part for forgetting that points list, so I did about all that I could do in that situation. But certainly not a m.o. I think Dan's points are ok as they at least have some basis. a) I would bet that you have absolutely no idea what the league points are intended to do, nor how they're generated. To simply see one side of something that you do not like, and criticize the entire system without having any clue about any of the other considerations, is silly. The league points do not attempt to exactly define a player's ability. If that's what I wanted, that's what I'd do, and I would use Elo or a similar system. But, ah - there's the rub! There are more important considerations which that system is targeting (as should be obvious by the growing league). That said, the league rating points are still - overall - a more accurate representation of MOST of the local players than any other resource, which is why I've used it for the Hi-Lo. Elo would certainly be better if it were properly implemented and tracked, but I only have so much time and haven't done this. J.B. may do this. Great! At least he is actually doing something, instead of complaining that others are not. b) It is extremely likely that I (Billy) have much, much, MUCH more experience with Elo and USCF style rating systems than any fooser - or any person - that you know. I've played over 300,000 games of chess in the past 15 years, and have worked extensively with those systems. I have written one of the most popular chess clients on the internet incorporating such systems. I know exactly what their purpose is, and exactly how they work. The league doesn't use them for distinct reasons. But feel free to point fingers. <em>edited by BillyBoy on 10/29/2009</em>
10/29/2009 Topic: Mesa "Monday Night Foosball" Starts Nov. 2! BillyBoy Administrator	And FWIW, Joe, I like you as a person. But you seem to be upset or discontent about some things I've done, and you've stated them (although indirectly). And some of it pissed me off, and I stated that. So, hopefully, by presenting such things directly, it will help to clear that crap up. - Bill
10/29/2009 Topic: Mesa "Monday Night Foosball" Starts Nov. 2! BillyBoy Administrator	azrocket wrote: Good question Joe, thinking about that a little bit, maybe what I'll do instead is rank players starting with: 1. Dan's elo points (he's got most of the Arizona players listed) 2. League points (If they are not in Dan's system) 3. VIFA and/or IFP (If not in Dan's or League system) 4. no ranking, determine points based on skill level of player (this would largely be guesswork, but hopefully we can get an idea based on how that person plays in a couple pickup games) JMHO: He has some of the Phoenix guys listed, yes, but still doesn't have much of a sample. I would still say the league points will probably be more accurate at the moment. But really, Elo adjusts quite fast, so I don't think it would matter a whole lot no matter which way you went about it. <em>edited by BillyBoy on 10/29/2009</em>
10/31/2009 Topic: No Saturday tourney this week! BillyBoy Administrator	Happy Halloween! See you all next weekend. (And don’t forget the new Monday Night Foosball event at Main St. Billiards at 7pm!) Bill Nolan AZ Foos
10/31/2009 Topic: League Conference Championships Nov. 3 & 4 BillyBoy Administrator	AZ Foosball Summer League Playoffs ramp up this week! Come check out the fights for the Conference Championships, and see who will earn the right to appear in the main event at FOOS BOWL VI… ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Western Conference Championship Match 7:00 pm, Tuesday, November 3 Itsnou.com vs. The Bends (@ Clicks Billiards) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eastern Conference Championship Match 7:00 pm, Wednesday, November 4 Upper Deckers vs. Cerberus (@ Duke's Sports Bar) <em>edited by BillyBoy on 10/31/2009</em>
11/23/2009 Topic: Results from the Foosbowl BillyBoy Administrator	League Championship match: Cerberus (E) defeated The Bends (W) League Stud: Casey Nelson (E) defeated Chris Teeter (W) Goalie War: Mike Miller (W) defeated Brad Szymalak (E) Forward Shootout: Adam Wood (E) defeated Debbie Crum (W) Singles: Luke Wright (E) defeated Dan Rayment (W) Doubles: Ken Oglesby (W) defeated Jeremy Wettlaufer (E) Rollerball: Chris Teeter (W) defeated Adam Wood (E) Hired Gun: T.J. Telles Most Improved Player: Adam Wood (E) <em>edited by BillyBoy on 11/23/2009</em>
12/28/2009 Topic: Results BillyBoy Administrator	azrocket wrote: Hey, if you're not playing, then don't complain if the results don't get posted!! LOL!
12/28/2009 Topic: Phoenix 12/26/2009 BillyBoy Administrator	Nick B./Bill N. - $90 T.J./Dan R. - $55 Mike S./Cowboy - $30 Doug S./Mark D. Scott Y./Rich L. Chris S./Adrienne M.