12/22/2015
Topic:
Super Doubles!!!
chambie
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Foosers prepare for Super Doubles! This will be a two day event Stingers on Friday Jan 15 and Dukes Saturday Jan 16. Billy should be releasing the Flyer in the next day or so. Already have interest from California, West Texas and New Mexico. Should be a great event!!!!!
http://arizonafoosball.com/News/default.aspx?article=20151222_SuperDoubles.html
Brad
edited by chambie on 12/22/2015 |
12/27/2015
Topic:
Super Doubles!!!
chambie
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Zeke I believe that Dozer will be an expert. We will have the official rankings out on Wednesday.
Brad |
12/28/2015
Topic:
Super Doubles Partner List
chambie
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Foosers...here is the list of Super Doubles participants and their partners that I know of so far. I will continue to update as we get closer to the event.
Brad Chamberlain - Ricky Chun
Nick Bourdos - Randy Stark
Bryan Hendricks - Pat Hutson
John Crawford - Bob Duncan
Afshin Mirzazadeh - Chris Petit
Michael Mendoza - Zeke Cervantes
Steve Matthews - Holly Minnig
Jason Collicot - Daniel Blech
Rick Wierman - Paul Freund
Doug Steele - John Scully
Bill Nolan - Casey Nelson
Mike Lawrence - Rissa Veloso
Adrianne McCormick - Leann D
Nolan Gorney - ???
Cory Jensen - Eric Sanchez
Steve Taylor - ????
Paul Lopes - ?????
Matt Canterbury - Del Compton
edited by chambie on 1/14/2016 |
12/29/2015
Topic:
12/27/15 Hi -Low Roto at LOFT AGAIN 9 teams
chambie
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Very cool of you Tim, way to support your venue and the players! Happy Holidays to all.
Brad |
12/29/2015
Topic:
Super Doubles Pre Registration
chambie
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Foosers -
Send me your name and your partners for SuperDoubles by January 10th and get 5 dollars off your team entry. You can either reply here or send me a message on Facebook or text. My number is 928-304-3351.
Here is the link to the flyer.
http://arizonafoosball.com/News/default.aspx?article=20151222_SuperDoubles.html
Brad |
12/31/2015
Topic:
Points List
chambie
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Hello Everyone
After much calculation, deliberation, and anticipation Bill and I, using a combination of his tournament points, the netfoos tournament points, and league rankings, have come up with the category list for ranking all players that have played in our events before. These will be the categories we will be using for AZ Super Doubles. The list is divided up into 5 sections - Master, Pro, Expert, Amateur, and Beginner. The list below is divided up into these sections and has players listed alphabetically by section. If you have any questions for us or wish to appeal your ranking please contact myself or Bill Nolan and we can discuss it with you further.
http://arizonafoosball.com/tournaments/rankings_AFA_NF_20151231.htm
edited by BillyBoy on 12/31/2015
edited by chambie on 12/31/2015
edited by chambie on 1/1/2016 |
12/31/2015
Topic:
Out of towners for SuperDoubles
chambie
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Foosers - We may have some out of towners coming in for Super Doubles that may need a place to stay. If any of you are willing please let me know and I will do my best to coordinate with the players coming in. |
12/31/2015
Topic:
Points List
chambie
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Terry - check your PM on this fourm.
edited by chambie on 12/31/2015 |
1/1/2016
Topic:
Points List
chambie
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Funkin smart asses....its fixed now ok. Sons a bitches |
1/2/2016
Topic:
Dukes New Years Day 2016
chambie
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Happy New Year to all!
Singles - 11 Players
1st - Brad Chamberlain...........40 (Double Dip)
2nd - Chris Serrao.................20
3rd - Ricky Chun.....................10
4th - Mike Sames
5th - Steve Telles
5th - Mike Lawrence
7th - Ash
7th - Pat Cain
9th - Bob Duncan
9th - Jim King
9th - Chris Petit
BYP...............10 Teams
1st - Nick Bourdos//Bob Duncan..............115
2nd - JB/Eric Bork......................................70
3rd - Brad Chamberlain/Ricky Chun..........30
4th - Ash/Chris Petit
5th - Ronnie Garret/Mike Lawrence
5th - Bryan Hendricks/Rissa Veloso
7th - Holly Minnig/Mike Sames
7th - Jim Duncan/Jim King
9th - Chris Serrao/Steve Telles
9th - Rick Marmelstein/Pat Cain |
1/3/2016
Topic:
King of the Ring Final Weeks
chambie
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King of the Ring has two events left till the finals. The events on 1/8 and 1/22 will be the last two to determine the final 6 players and We will have the playoff on 1/29.
The current standing are as follows up till 1/1/2016
1 - Brad C - 104
2 - Nick B - 98
3 - Bob D - 89
4 - Jim K - 87
5 - Pat C - 65
6 - Mike L - 62
7 - Ash - 59
8 - Mike S - 57
9 - Paul F - 55
10 - Pat H - 51
As you can see there is a very tight race for the 5th and 6th place spots with only 14 pts separating the final 6 players.
Brad |
1/4/2016
Topic:
Why no love for New Mexico Foos tourney
chambie
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Hi John - I think that there are several issues. First and foremost the tourney you guys are doing does not have any specific prize structure listed, and also the events are kind of sketchy. There is no specific events for different ratings as well, which may have scared away the low ranked players. Another issue is that we have so much foos here now there needs to be a pretty good incentive to travel to a remote location and play foos. The notice was also pretty short, it is good to usually have tournies scheduled at least two months in advance. Lastly we have our big SuperDoubles event the week after. When we listed the tourney I did not know yours was the weekend prior as I got notice of your event about 5 days after we posted ours.
I personally wanted to come to this event but it did not work out in my schedule. I really appreciate all the support from NM over the years and hope you guys will continue to come to our events. Hopefully you guys can incorporate some of my suggestions in your next event. Best of luck this weekend.
Brad
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1/4/2016
Topic:
1st Ever Pro Masters List circa 1977
chambie
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Check out who number 37 is. Pretty damn cool we get to play with him week in and week out. |
1/6/2016
Topic:
Points List
chambie
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OK Ill bite......The rankings were generated two ways, both using ELO system. The first is about 5 years of data, over 100 tournament results in Netfoos. With that sample size I feel very confident that in that list players are ranked correctly. Billy has also created an ELO based system within his results and generates a different point list. We compared the two point lists and came up with the rankings. If you wish I can bring the two point lists for anyone to see.
The variations on the CA players that are Pro's but not ranked that high is that they played here in a couple of the big events and did not do all that well, however I agree that Art should be adjusted up, particularly based on recent results. The others will stay experts until they come up here and prove otherwise. Johnny has been struggling lately and is ranked appropriately based on his results over the past two years.
The experts you listed are accurate based on results and this is bared out on the two points lists that we generated. Out of the group you mentioned I was the only one, based on the points, that is on the expert/pro border. Cowboy hardly plays anymore and has not won any events in a long time. This will most likely be my last event as a local expert.
The thing that is tough about ranking our players against other players from out of state is the fact that so few of us tour with any regularity. Zeke you are really the only one that tours, as most of us are still just amateurs when looking at Mary's points. Hell she has Eric Bork rated as a beginner, lol.
Zeke, I appreciate your input and your opinion carries a lot of weight as you know and understand the game very well. However when discussing ratings and points Bill and I have agreed to be as objective as possible and use a proven system such as ELO and not a subjective one that rates players based on what we believe they should be based on their apparent skill level.
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1/6/2016
Topic:
Points List
chambie
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zekefooser wrote:
SprintCar7 wrote:
Also if you are going to have a local "Master" list, go ahead and put
Bacon, Tony
Bourdos, Nick
Cardenas, Ben
Cervantes, Zeke
Lantzy, Ross
Stachelek, Evan
Swan, Don
Really Zeke, your going to lump yourself, Ben and Ross into the same league as the others on your list?
Clearly you are joking or being sarcastic and if so I will laugh along with ya, but if your serious I call "BULLSHIT"
edited by SprintCar7 on 1/6/2016
I assume this is Steve ... which i forgot to include in the "LOCAL MASTER" LIST as well based on experience and accomplishments on tour. The key word here being "LOCAL" for local points and ranks, I'm not saying I'm a master on tour or Ben or Ross. The real joke is that a guy like Dozer (Mike Mendoza), who is a rookie on tour, who has no local scene here in Tucson, and who only has been playing for about 4 years, quickly got put in the "expert" rank in the phoenix points list. In that same list you have all the regular phoenix players that have been player for 15+ years and have far more experience and play regularly. So when I see a list like this and it says "Master" but it does not include Nick, Tony Bacon, Don Swan, but TJ and Bryan Hendricks are in the Pro list (correctly by the way), then it's just a local ranking and not a real ranking.
-zeke
edited by zekefooser on 1/6/2016
Zeke - What are "real rankings"? That shit Mary posts each year? We all well know that IFP designed its system to attract the maximum amount of players to support the tour? I never believed that it was a true ranking system. Pat Hutson won Am Singles at Vegas last year and is still an Amateur???? I personally have placed in the top 7 in both EX and AM singles and in the top 9 of AM Doubles and have moved up like 5 points, seriously??? With that said I believe that Dozer is ranked appropriately locally, as he is able to complete and has a chance to win in the category that he is in. If he was ranked an Amateur he would be a big favorite and I would have some pissed off, and rightfully so, local Ams. Everyone in all the divisions are our customers and we work very hard to make sure we come up with both fair and appropriate ways to rank people, as my number one goal is customer satisfaction. I want people to continue to come to our events, and have the ability to compete, and compete fairly. We always know that we will never satisfy everyone, that is why we have this board and I invite anyone who wants to discuss the matter to contact me. There is no hidden agenda here we only want to do what is fair and right.
In this event in particular we had to look at the points and decide where the dividing line was. The first and foremost factor in deciding that was the simple fact are any of the people in the division just going to mop up on everyone else, as well as to they have a chance to compete in that division. The difficult part is looking at the people on the border lines between divisions and making sure they are rated appropriately. Did we have to make some judgement calls? Of course we did, but I believe that we did so with the good of Arizona Foosball and this event in particular in mind.
As I stated earlier I really respect your opinion and appreciate your input. I will take it to heart and talk to Bill to see if we need to make any adjustments, but as I stated earlier we want to keep this to a minimum. As far as your Master arguments go it is really a moot point for this event, however if we run some events with a Masters division in the future I actually think what you stated will be very helpful. Out of all the divisions I do believe there is a real difference between the top and bottom of the Expert division and would like to move that dividing line between pro and expert down. However to do so and suddenly move a big group of former experts into a pro category with out winning any major local events, or having the points to support the move, we would most likely have a mutiny on our hands.
It is always easier to fix problems on the outside looking in, however actually having to do it certainly changes your perspective, it has with me. The one great thing about all of this is, that this is a really good problem to have. To actually have to rank 200 plus players for a local event is a good sign for foosball in Arizona. I look forward to continuing this debate on the board or in person as I only want to grow our sport in our state. I also think it is great to have some controversy and contention on this board. It has gotten very boring and vanilla ever since you and Steve stopped posting  |
1/8/2016
Topic:
Points List
chambie
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Yes she is....by points and by skill level........two words 5 row. |
1/10/2016
Topic:
Dukes 01/08/16
chambie
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Singles 16 Players
1st - Ricky Chun........................50
2nd - Pat Hutson.......................25
3rd - Chris Serrao.....................13
4th - JB......................................7
5th - Mike Sames
5th - Jim King
7th - Bob Duncan
7th - Mike Lawrence
9th - Paul Feund
9th - Pat Cain
9th - Ash
9th - Rick Marmelstein
13th - Brad Chamberlain
13th - Kevin Miller
13th - Noe
13th - Del Compton
BYP 14 Teams
1st - Nick Bourdos/Mile Sames................145
2nd - Brad Chamberlain/Ricky Chun..........75
3rd - Bryan Hendricks/Pat Hutson..............44
4th - Jim Dickson/Rick Marmelstein...........28
5th - JB/Doug Steele
5th - Mike Lawrence/Rissa Veloso
7th - Ash/Chris Petit
7th - Bob Duncan/John Crawford
9th - Jim King/Ryan Bomberry
9th - Del Compton/Matt C
9th - Ronnie Garrett/Holly Minnig
9th - Chris Serrao/Pat Cain
13th - Kevin Miller/Rick Marmelstein
13th - Leann/Age |
1/12/2016
Topic:
Points List
chambie
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Hmmm... I was tempted not to respond to this at all, but there are a couple of items that I'll address. I guess someone is sucking on some sour grapes for getting dropped twice by Ricky and I last week. Hey shit happens, deal with it  Bob has beaten me in singles two weeks in a row and you don't see me bitching about him being mis-ranked and declaring him and expert now. Bryan you have been playing great the past several months and have earned your rank. Honestly I would like to think of my self on that level but I'm just not there, close but no cigar. I don't have the consistency in my game to hang with you, Nick, Pat, and the other Pro's week in and week out and the results bear that out. Do I get you guys every once in a while sure, but more often than not I don't. Ricky has amazing talent and we seem to make a good team, but he has also taken his lumps and does not have the consistency or the points to even be considered a pro yet. He is Chunderful though isn't he>? LOL!!! By the way I plan on winning both expert and pro divisions.
Bob as I mentioned in the first post we do have points from netfoos, local tournaments via billy's scoring system -both of which are ELO based, as well as league rankings. I will make the spreadsheets available to anyone who wants them, however the points don't exactly match up as they are from different environments.....netfoos is strictly from events at Dukes and Cactus Moon - Billy's ELO points are from all tournaments reported here at all three locations from the last 7 months or so, and league is from league.
I am glad to have the points discussion anytime, but inform yourself first. Go online and check results here and at netfoos so we can have an informed discussion. If anyone thinks they can do a better job of promoting and putting together events that support all the foosers by all means do so and come up with your own ranking system. The little money I make off of this is no where near the time and effort that Billy, myself and several others put into this to keep it going. For the most part I am pretty laid back about all of this and do it for the love of the game, but to infer that I am stacking the deck somehow to give me an unfair advantage is complete BS. Anyone who knows me knows that I really don't like to put on these major events. It is massive work on my end and anyone who has helped out or ran a large event knows this. Ok I have said my peace so.......
- If you want the points let me know and I'll get them to you.
- Bring your A game to the SuperDoubles this weekend and have fun...win or lose
- Continue to support Arizonafoosball
- This is the best thread on here in years
Signed - Future SuperDoubles Champion (maybe not this one but somewhere sometime)
Bad Brad Chamberlain
edited by chambie on 1/12/2016 |
1/12/2016
Topic:
Super Doubles This Weekend!!!!!
chambie
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Great weekend of foos coming up!!! Over 800 dollars added to the event. The best opportunity for foosers of all skill levels to cash in on the prize money.
Please make sure you show up at least 30 minutes prior to your event to pay and register. If you plan on playing please contact Brad Chamberlain @ 928-304-3351 and pre-register and save 5 dollars on your team entry. We will stop accepting entries at 30 teams to ensure we finish the event on time. There is already 14 teams that I know of, so still plenty of room!!! See the schedule and link below for more details. If you want to play and are looking for a partner let me know and I'll see if I can hook you up with someone in your ranking.
Friday Night @ Stingers
6:30 PM - Beginner Doubles
8:30 PM - Amateur Doubles
Saturday @ Dukes
1 PM - Expert Doubles
5 PM - Pro Doubles
8 PM - 5 dollar DYP (for all players not in SuperDoubles Final)
10 PM - Super Doubles Final!!!
http://arizonafoosball.com/News/default.aspx?article=20151222_SuperDoubles.html
Event Notes and Updates -
Will pay to 4th place if 8 or more teams in division
Will increase payouts on 2nd thru 4th place if we have 10 + teams in each division. Beginners and amateurs only.
Must have at least 6 teams in beginner and ams to gaurantee payouts to 3rd place
If any IFP Masters or an Elite teamed with a Master participate they will compete in the Pro division but give up a point a game. They will also have to score 9 in the final instead of 8. |
1/12/2016
Topic:
Points List
chambie
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Bob - PM me your email.
http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/154595/is-the-expression-say-your-piece-or-say-your-peace
LOL
edited by chambie on 1/12/2016 |