10/10/2008
Topic:
FoosBowl
zekefooser
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Billy,
I see on the main page you have FoosBowl II October 2008. What's that about?
-zeke |
10/11/2008
Topic:
Chris & Jennifer Lancaster, and whoever else..
zekefooser
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Steve,
Here's Chris/Jenn's email
[email protected]
I'll give Chris a call and let him know tomorrow as well. They usually foos on saturday nights but i'll pass on the message.
-zeke |
10/11/2008
Topic:
FoosBowl
zekefooser
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That looks cool. On Saturday 18th Sara and I are driving to phoenix in the morning to drop off my cousin at the airport and we were thinking of hanging out overthere doing some shopping and
hitting our favorite Iranian restaurant in scottsdale, and i wanted to see if foosbowl was going to be like the last ones. So i think i might get a hotel room for the night and just make it a phoenix
hang out day and show up to get some phoenix money at the foosbowl. I'll make a decision in the next couple days and hopefully a fellow tucsonian will want to make the drive to phoenix to get some
doubles money. Sucks that it's the same weekend as the tucson BYP. I'll see what i decide.
lates,
-zeke |
10/11/2008
Topic:
Has anyone heard from Arnold Ortiz?
zekefooser
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Oh yea...what the heck happen to him? Also whatever happened to that one loud mouth phoenix fooser? |
10/11/2008
Topic:
THANKS BILLY!!
zekefooser
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The Fu@K with Billy!!!! J/K Keep up the good work, and go concentrate on your game cause i'm tired of hearing you bitch about your "bad" luck! :P~~
-zeke
<em>edited by zekefooser on 10/11/2008</em> |
10/11/2008
Topic:
Damn I wanted to be first to post
zekefooser
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Hey Marc,
How's the northwest treating you?
-zeke |
10/19/2008
Topic:
Foosbowl IV
zekefooser
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I was surprised the turnout was so weak. There were a lot of players that showed up for the league and didnt play the BYP and singles.
BYP
1 Pinalyzer / Zeke $120
2 Eric B / Pat L
3 Nick / Mike S
Singles
1 Zeke $70
2 Nick
3 Doug |
10/20/2008
Topic:
Links
zekefooser
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Billy,
I see right now that you are using a flash for the side menu. This is fine for some browsers, but it would be better if you could just
have a regular HTML type menu. I was trying to access the website on my phone, and could only see part of it, but the flash portions
werent visible. So it's better to have a page that can be accessed by as many different browsers as possible.
thanks,
-zeke |
10/20/2008
Topic:
Foosbowl IV
zekefooser
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What surprises me is that there were plenty of people from the league, but most didnt play the BYP or OS. I was just expecting those people (Casey, TJ, Guy etc) to play.
My theory behind the rookies not wanting to play the regular events is the following. I have noticed that most Phoenix fooser's have a really bad table etiquette, pretty much
a lot of phoenix foosers cry, complain, yell, during matches. This doesnt make it very inviting for someone starting to play to want to compete. Who the fuck wants to play
against cowbow and his immature and disrespectful way of playing? Every time Billy plays and any slop goes in, he bitches and moans, and his game goes to shit. You guys
dont beat Nick very often but when he is losing he has a nasty attitude during the match. He starts talking, making little comments to try to get in your head, etc. I like all
you guys off the foosball table, but sometimes the attitude while playing is simply rotten. I dont ever see the better Phoenix players trying to help the rookies get better. I dont
play there often, but in the times i've been to phoenix tournies, I've never seen anybody telling somebody else how they can get better, etc.
Of course not everyone is like that, and here's a lot of
guys that play the game the right way, without complaining or acting like a baby when something doesnt go right like Eric B and others.
Most foosers in Tucson are very good sportsmen, and I personally always try to help the new players by showing
them how to play the right way. I even do that anytime I go to Phoenix. So the fact that the best tucson foosers are good sportsmen I think is one of the reasons why a lot
of the Tucson rookies dont mind paying their 5 bucks and playing even if they know they wont win.
-zeke |
10/21/2008
Topic:
Response to Billy's Lack of information
zekefooser
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Billy wrote:
I do not feel it is "good sportsmanship" to take a regional title due to an arrangement with the person in the king seat and then not even mention it when you are congratulated on a national board. I want to stress here, Zeke (because of the impersonality of the internet and the ease of which statements are taken in the worst possible way) that this is not something I hold against you. In fact, when the point came up amongst friends/players, all I said was that I was surprised you didn't mention it. I could believe that you honestly didn't really even think about it. Hell, for all I know maybe it wasn't even true. You've always seemed like a good and honorable guy the whole time I've known you. But my point is that I have not walked in your shoes, so I am not going to pass judgment on you. You should do the same.
Just so everyone knows the situation. A few years back at the West Coast Smackdown in San Diego. I lost to the Dave Pesce for the king seat of semi pro singles, and then came back to play him again in the final. Let me mention a couple of things. First, I hate it when people dont want to play finals. There's some poeple who are happy with splitting the money and being done. I'm not like that, I dont care some much about the money as I do about playing a final, especially against someone who beat me. Second, for years, it was all too common that some of the phoenix guys (mainly Nick), who always wanted to split and not play finals. Ask Trevor about this. Trevor hated this (he told me himself).
So getting back to the San Diego tournament. When I was ready to play Dave Pesce, he came up to me and said he wanted to split the money. I told him, I dont mind splitting the money but I want to play for the Jacket and the title (I'd never gotten a jacket, and like i said above, i dont like not playing finals). He said he didnt care for the Jacket cause he had a bunch. So i told him that if he doenst want to play then I'm taking the jacket and first place honors. He didnt care.
So I'm not going to go out on a forum and post that Dave didnt want to play me in the final! The way I see it, he forfeited the final. I had every intention of playing that final, so i'm not going to feel bad if someone chooses not to play it. It's not like it was going to take more than 45 minutes to finish it.
-zeke
<em>edited by zekefooser on 10/21/2008</em> |
10/21/2008
Topic:
Foosbowl IV
zekefooser
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I'm glad to know that you guys try to help the rookies get better. I think this is important to help promote the game and grow the player base.
I'm glad to hear that Nick is actively helping others.
With that said, I'm still curious to know why the people that were there didnt play. I dont care about the ones that didnt show up, i'm curious why the ones that did show up
didnt play. Maybe you can ask them next time you see them. Everyone will have their reasons, but maybe you can find something interesting.
Also, i do agree with Billy that this past weekend he didnt bitch and moan about slop. I was pleasantly surprised. But that's not the important point i was trying to make. My point is that
when people start acting pissed and talking crap (to themselves or the opponent) during match, etc, that type of behavior may cause some beginners from playing.
I'm sure there's a ton of factors that affect why people dont play, but i'm sure this doenst help. |
10/21/2008
Topic:
Foosbowl IV
zekefooser
|
pinalyzer wrote:
I just think that even though people "donate" in other sports/games to play with the "Big Boys" it would seem the culture in many places is that a person doesn't want to play if they don't have a chance in winning in foosball. When I played in Fargo and Pittsburgh this was not the case and people just wanted to play even if it meant they wouldn't win a match all night...they played because they wanted to play the game. What in some areas does it not have the players that just want to play and a few dollars (after all we are not talking about much money) is not that much. Is it because in some areas players are riducled if they play bad or lose...I remember when Tucson had some foos bullys and a person's manhood was questioned or womanhood. What are other peoples thoughts on this?
The Pinalyzer
When i was starting, i would look forward to playing good players because it was really entertaining, and I knew it would make me better.
-zeke |
10/21/2008
Topic:
New table
zekefooser
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I received my new tornado T-3000 table yesterday. It's pretty nice. It's the ITSF competition model. Looks awesome, and the playing surface is not
warped.
-zeke |
10/29/2008
Topic:
Local Points
zekefooser
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Seems like at every Tucson/Phoenix tournament we have the same dilemma regarding the points. We are all in agreement that the
USTA points are screwed up and since most Arizona foosers dont tour, why do we continue to use those points? Dan has done it the right way
where he uses Netfoos to keep track of results, and Netfoos itself gives him an updated local points list, which is much better than always going
off USTA non changing points. Billy, I saw that you mentioned that you were going to keep points as well and try to do a hi-lo every month.
Are you using netfoos? If not, why not?
-zeke |
10/30/2008
Topic:
Local Points
zekefooser
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Just seems like netfoos would make your life easier, aside from giving you a bunch of stats (money, results, etc). I still dont get why you wouldnt use netfoos rather than re-inventing the wheel, other than if they charged for the service.
-zeke |
10/31/2008
Topic:
Local Points
zekefooser
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dont really feel like responding. case closed. |
10/31/2008
Topic:
Local Points
zekefooser
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Ok. I'll respond. First of all, my original question is why doesnt Billy use netfoos. The reason i ask is because it seems as simple as enter the chart and you are done. All your stats are
done, your players can go see them, you can go see who beat who, etc. It saves you time since you dont have to compute any stats and upload them to a forum. It makes the presentation
of the data very easy to read and you can see all the tournament results, charts, etc, and your tournament info is all centralized. Again, it saves time. Maybe Daniel can comment on whether it's a hassle or not. Billy stated in his answer
"Just busy with other stuff - and the method I mapped out is quick and simple and will work fine for this purpose"
I understand being busy with other stuff and not wanting to put time into things, which is why i've always wanted to know why not use something that's already there which will
cut down the time you spend with this. Like Billy said, he has his own proprietary software, and does not wish to support the competition. I just wanted to know the reason. |
11/3/2008
Topic:
Local Points
zekefooser
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Anyways, Billy you do more than enough for Phoenix foosball, and I dont doubt you know what you are doing, so i'll let you do your
thing, and save my comments and/or questions. See ya a the next tourney.
-zeke |
11/3/2008
Topic:
Tucson VS Phoenix 11/22/08
zekefooser
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Dan,
Do you think that starting the BYP at 7pm (by the time it's drawn, etc, 7:30) will be early enough to finish on time? Or are you thinking
race to 7 most of the losers bracket? Is it necessary to have 2 hours between forward shoot out and Open singles? would 4pm and 6pm for
Open singles and BYP make it easier to run and finish on time? (just a suggestion)
Is the Forward Shootout single elimination or double? 2/3 games or race to 7? Typically at majors they usually do single elimination (i've seen both race to 7
or 2/3), so just wondering what you are going to use.
-zeke |
11/14/2008
Topic:
The T.J. issue
zekefooser
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I dont see any results, so i dont believe it. Only results from phoenix are some from sometime in october. |