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1/25/2015
Topic:
Little Sting 1/24/2015

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12 LIMITED
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1 - Jim Sherman/Tim Friesen - $240
2 - Evan Stachalek/Adrienne McCormack - $100
2 - Brian Salke/Jacqueline d'Estries - $100
4 - Bryan Hendricks/Holly Minnig - $70
5 - Pat Hutson/Bob Duncan - $15
5 - Nick Bourdos/Nolan Gorney - $15
7 - Bill Nolan/Chris Serrao
7 - Steve Garcia/Eric Friesen
9 - Casey Nelson/Jim King
9 - Wandad Guscheh/Scott Young
9 - Mark De Oliveira/Paul Lopes
9 - Ricky Chun/Ronnie Garrett
12 - Marc Waggoner/Bridget Pedersen
12 - Jason Collicott/Jason Williams
12 - Jeff Minnig/Dave Stath
12 - Scott Turnidge/Ramses Giron
17 - Phill Tran/Brian Sternberg



GOALIE WAR
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1 - Brian Salke - $30
1 - Nick Bourdos - $30
3 - Pat Hutson - $30
4 - Scott Young
5 - Holly Minnig
5 - Jim Sherman
7 - Eric Friesen
7 - Bob Duncan
9 - Brian Sternberg
9 - Nolan Gorney
9 - Jeff Minnig
9 - Scott Turnidge
12 - Tim Friesen
12 - Phill Tran
1/31/2015
Topic:
Handicap BYP Tonite!

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@Mike - You might have got that notion from the change in the player cards at Stingers, which work similarly to the chips. Such a move was originally allowed with the Stingers cards. I thought the option was kind of cool, myself, but since it caused 2-3 fights a night for six consecutive months we acquiesced for public safety concerns.
2/1/2015
Topic:
Phoenix Tour Finale 1/31/2015

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A really fun finale to an incredible event & promotion! The winners of the first Phoenix Tour were:

Overall champion: Bryan Hendricks
Rookie champion: Adrienne McCormack

The title jackets are being printed this week!

Hi-Low Roto DYP
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1 - Jim Sherman/Scott Young - $120
2 - Bill Nolan/Steve Mathews - $60
3 - Doug Steele/Bob Duncan - $30
4 - Gary Cooper/Jason Williams
5 - Bryan Hendricks/Jim King
5 - Ronnie Garrett/Tim Friesen
7 - Jesse Rhode/Holly Minnig
7 - Jeff Minnig/Adrienne McCormack
9 - Brian Salke/Rick Weirman
edited by BillyBoy on 2/1/2015
2/6/2015
Topic:
Foos Bowl XIII February 21, 2015

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Arizona Foosball 2014 Fall/Winter League Championships are Saturday, February 21, 2015!



End-of-Season League Party!

*** SEE THE FULL FLYER! ***

League finals, open events, and free food!
This event hosts all the league championship title matches (team & individual), as well as the first Interim League handicapped events (Handicapped BYP and 1-on-1 Battle) open to ALL PLAYERS. League prizes and payouts will be awarded after the championship match. Here is the 2014 Fall/Winter League payout structure:

Title
Prize
League Champions
$420.00 & Pendants
Runner-up
$270.00
3rd/4th place playoff teams
$120.00
5rd/6th place playoff teams
$75.00
7th/8th place playoff teams
$60.00
Individual Title Champions
$50.00 & Pendant
Individual Title Runner-ups
$25.00


There will also be a FREE CHILI FIXIN'S BAR for all league players! (See if you can eat your league entry fee!)

For more details, check out the full flyer here.
edited by BillyBoy on 2/12/2015
2/6/2015
Topic:
2014 Fall/Winter League Retrospective

BillyBoy
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Thanks to all league players, coordinators, and sponsors for helping to make the 2014 Fall/Winter League a big success smile

Everyone knows the league is both a fun time and a great way to break up a long week with a little foos action and comradery. But the AZ Foosball League has become more than that - it has become something special. I don't believe there is anything comparable across the nation right now, and we are getting bigger and better each season. This could not happen without each and every one of you, so thanks again!

That said, I would like to thank several people in particular for their extra efforts this season.

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Nolan Gorney - thanks to Nolan for his ongoing work in expanding AZ Foosball around Phoenix, including procuring one of our coolest new venues this season, the Hob Nob Sports Grill in Chandler. (This is not just a typical pitch - anyone who has hung out there knows that Yianni and his hockey buddies know how to run a sports bar and to sell a gyro!)
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Jim King - thanks to Jim "Cobra" King for authoring the monthly "Foos Pulse" - a hit column on our website, as well as in the popular AZ Billiards & Darts magazine (pick it up now in any pool hall!).
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Rulon Smith - thanks to Rulon for taking over the management of the league statistics, and helping with coordinator duties. This has proven to be invaluable, and is sure to lead to many good things to come.

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And finally, thanks to anyone I might have left out. I'm sure there are a couple! LOL
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Happy 2015; here's to even bigger and better things ahead! smile


Bill Nolan
2/6/2015
Topic:
Final Statistics & Standings Have Been Published

BillyBoy
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Rulon Smith has kindly and diligently updated the final 2014 statistics, standings, schedules, and individual title categories in record time. We hope that this makes the end-of-season craziness slightly less crazy for those of you in the playoffs or just trying to keep up with the most exciting part of the season leading into the Foos Bowl. A total of 14 individual conference winners will have the chance to play for the league championship in each category. Please visit the league section and click on standings or statistics on the top menu to see where you finished in the individual title races.

Some of the races were super close this season, and were subject to two or three different tie-breakers to decide the champs. Since they were so close, neither Rulon nor I knew for sure who had won a couple different categories until today. Last night, in the heat of the moment, each of us were asked several times to project the winners of these categories, but without the right tools and full data in hand, we were forced to say "we can't be 100% sure at this time" and could only take a few educated guesses just like the next guy...

But now it's all official! Congratulations to each winner, and good luck to you in your title matches!



Jason Williams finished the season tied for the Eastern Conference Doubles Title with Jim Sherman, and was sure he had it wrapped up after last night's performances, but lost it on a 3rd round tie-breaker. He is shown here writing a letter of thanks to AZ Foos Statistics Recorder, Rulon Smith.
edited by BillyBoy on 2/6/2015
2/10/2015
Topic:
2/8/15 11 teams Hi-Low Roto Loft

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What a run by Ms. McCormack...
2/11/2015
Topic:
league ideas

BillyBoy
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beersandlongs wrote:

- make gw like the 5bar thing with taking points off

There have been requests to do such things - including making all the games score that way. I don't think scoring them all (or too many of them) this way would be good for a several reasons:

a) games/matches would take too long
b) would work against the general mechanisms of the league points system (i.e., handicaps are scaled for games to 7; the more points that are added to a game without adjusting handicaps, the more the stronger player is favored)

Item (b) is probably the motivating factor for your request to score GW in this way, since it is difficult for an expert/pro to beat an amateur or beginner in the current league structure. But you need to remember that there are many factors to balance - "fixing" one facet of an issue can break another. While it's true that GW is weighted towards the lower rated players, this isn't necessarily bad on its face. New players tend to get a feel for the goalie position much sooner than the other aspects of the game, and they pay their dues severely in the more advanced aspects of the game - hence their low rating. One of the main objectives of the league (this particular, HANDICAPPED version) is to motivate new players to take up the game. So it becomes a judgment call on where to draw the line with respect to how these new players may fare in various parts of the matches. After years of watching new players show up at tournaments a single time, and never again return, it was very, very clear what the reason was: they got their ass kicked, and they didn't like it. Now, one might say "tough turkey" (and this is what I would say as well, as a competitor). However, if your objective is to have players return and grow the sport, you have to acknowledge that reality and do something to get past it. So is it really a bad thing that new players tend to do well at goalie war? If we take that away from them, would they again tire of losing nearly every single game, and slip away from the game - again?

I understand that you may not be talking about stripping this advantage from the rookie players, but simply rebalancing it a little bit. And that may be appropriate. However, I do think that the particular suggestion to score it like 5BW would be overkill, and quickly convert GW into a game they cannot win. Remember, that brief annoying moment you might have when you drop a game to a newbie and walk away talking to yourself goes away pretty fast. But you just made that newbie's day, and he/she is going to go home and practice this game some more, because he loves that feeling of kicking your pro ass!

I realize the above is a lot of words to answer what seems like a simple question. But I am convinced that the other considerations I expounded upon are not only important, but critical to the overall success the league has experienced, and I wanted to take a minute to highlight these points to the general audience/critics, since they are not so obvious at first glance.

beersandlongs wrote:

- get rid of the 3way rotation singles - the league promotes foosball to the newbs and beginners and that event sucks for them more than any other

Maybe. I've found over many seasons that it actually tends to go over well, which is why it's still there. (Btw, for many seasons we changed the games around quite a bit. They haven't been changed in a few seasons now simply because the current arrangement seems to have proven to be the most popular and successful. But, yeah, it'll change again sometime soon, I'm sure!)

beersandlongs wrote:

- adjust handicaps of those who rarely or do not play in the league - this will make the games more fair with substitute players

You suggest arbitrary adjustment for those who haven't played in the league. But where else could their rating have come from? smile I think that what you are asking for is already how it is done; possibly you think there should be more intervention. But let me ask you these questions: do you think someone should occasionally go through the ratings and adjust them to what they personally feel is correct? If so, who should do it?

As it stands right now, points are adjusted arbitrarily when there isn't enough data. There are also quite a few provisions in the rules to prevent teams from taking advantage of non-established players.

In the end, one should recognize that most of these above concerns are always going to exist to some extent in a handicapped system.

Thanks, Brian, for your insight and taking the time to post these things. You may think I just disregarded them. LOL! But that isn't the case, I assure you. Your experience carries a lot of weight.

P.S. On a side note, we are nearly finished implementing a proper Elo system for tournament players. I would readily agree that a typical league handicapping system is not ideal for competition tournament play. (We have used them in the past, but only because it was the lesser of all evils.) A good scoring system for tournaments is long overdue smile
edited by BillyBoy on 2/11/2015
2/13/2015
Topic:
Foos Pulse in AZ "Billiards & Darts" magazine

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The latest Foos Pulse column by Jim King appears in the February issue of "Arizona Billiards and Darts"! You can find the magazine in most sports bars around the valley. High five!
2/22/2015
Topic:
Foos Bowl XIII Results

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LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH

That's What She Said 2, Steve Mathews Band 1

INDIVIDUAL TITLE MATCHES

League Stud - Brian Salke (W) defeated Jim Sherman (E)
Goalie War - Rulon Smith (E) defeated Holly Minnig (W)
Forward Shoot Out - Tim Friesen (E) defeated Miles Johnson (W)
Singles - Rick Weirman (W) defeated Jason Collicott (E)
Doubles - Brian Salke (W) defeated Jim Sherman (E)
Rollerball - Brian Salke (W) defeated Paul Lopes (E)
5 Bar War - Mike Lawrence (E) defeated Mark Proctor (W)
Hired Gun - Ken Oglesby
Most Improved Player - Colten Dusenberry

HANDICAPPED BYP
1 - Ronnie Garrett/Jason Williams - $140
2 - Gary Cooper/Colten Dusenberry - $70
3 - Jeff Minnig/Doug Steele - $40
4 - Jim Sherman/Rulon Smith - $20
5 - Brian Salke/Rissa Salke
5 - Bryan Hendrics/David Stath
7 - Steve Taylor/Bill Nolan
7 - Chris Serrao/Max d'Estries
9 - Steve Mathews/Holly Minnig
9 - Jason Collicott/Daniel Blech
9 - Jim King/Miles Johnson
9 - Dennis Pickering/Karyl Pickering
13 - Dustin Hubred/Jacqueline d'Estries
13- Rick Weirman/Paul Freund
13 - Bridget Pedersen/Steven Collicott
edited by BillyBoy on 2/22/2015
3/9/2015
Topic:
Interim League 2/25/2015

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Handicapped BYP
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1 - Ricky Chun/Chris Serrao
2 - Brian Salke/Holly Minnig
3 - Ronnie Garrett/Jacqueline d'Estries
4 - Eric Friesen/Tim Friesen
5 - Bill Nolan/Rulon Smith
5 - Brian Sternberg/Phill Tran
7 - Jim Sherman/Scott Young
7 - Noel Rooney/Justin Loken
3/9/2015
Topic:
Interim League 3/4/2015

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Handicapped DYP
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1 - Rick Weirman/Brian Salke - $60
2 - Tim Friesen/Jim Sherman - $30
3 - Holly Minnig/Dave Gilitiuk - $10
4 - Jim King/Chris Serrao
5 - Dustin Hubred/Brian Sternberg
5 - Ronnie Garrett/Travis Hubred
7 - Phill Tran/Paul Freund
7 - Jim Sherman/Rulon Smith
3/9/2015
Topic:
Stinger's 3/7/2015

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Roto DYP
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1 - Eric Friesen/Brian Salke - $90
2 - Doug Steele/Bryan Hendricks - $45
3 - Jeff Minnig/Tim Friesen
4 - Gary Cooper/Bob Duncan
5 - Holly Minnig/Josh Radas
5 - Bill Nolan/Adrienne McCormack
3/13/2015
Topic:
2015 Hall of Fame Results (Arizona Players!)

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Results for Arizona players...

Goalie War (27 players)
9 - Eric Friesen

Amateur Singles (124 players)
1 - Pat Hutson
3 - Jim Sherman
13 - Brad Chamberlain
17 - Wandad Guscheh

Amateur Doubles (26 teams)
7 - Rissa Salke/Brian Salke
13 - Mike Mendoza/Bill Mitts
17 - Path Hutson/Doug Steele

Thursday DYP (58 teams)
9 - Noel Rooney/Bill Winchester

Open Singles (145 players)
33 - Zeke Cervantes

Open Doubles (? players)
4 - Brian Salke/Billy Pappas

Master Limited (9 teams)
7 - Ronnie Garret/Holly Minnig

Rookie Singles (81 players)
9 - Chris Serrao

Rookie Doubles (35 teams)
1 - Mike Lawrence/Chris Serrao

Expert Mixed (26 teams)
3 or better - Jim Sherman/Rissa Salke

Pro Singles (134 players)
1 - Zeke Cervantes
edited by BillyBoy on 4/2/2015
3/20/2015
Topic:
Interim League 3/18/2015

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Handicapped BYP
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1 - Brian Salke/Jacquelin d'Estries - $60
2 - Bill Nolan/Holly Minnig - $30
3 - Scott Young/Bridget Pedersen - $12
4 - Miles Johnson/Jim King
5 - Tony Bacon/Nolan Gorney
5 - Daniel Blech/Rulon Smith
7 - Brian Sternberg/Phill Tran
7 - Rick Weirman/Paul Freund
3/26/2015
Topic:
Interim League 3/25/2015

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HANDICAPPED BYP
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1 - Brian Salke/Colten Dusenberry - $70
2 - Bill Nolan/Holly Minnig - $40
3 - Jim Sherman/Brian Sternberg - $12
4 - Tony Bacon/Nolan Gorney
5 - David Gilitiuk/Bob Duncan
5 - Ricky Chun/Scott Young
7 - Jason Collicott/Daniel Blech
7 - Miles Johnson/Phill Tran
9 - Rulon Smith/Rick Weirman
9 - Rick Weirman/Paul Freund
3/31/2015
Topic:
Stinger's 3/14//2015

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DYP
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1 - Bryan Hendricks/Jason Harr - $70
2 - Ken Oglesby/Jeff Minnig - $40
3 - Gary Cooper/Bill Nolan
4 - Jesse Rhode/Joshua Radas
5 - Ramses Giron/Adrienne McCormack
3/31/2015
Topic:
Stinger's 3/28/2015

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DYP
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1 - Bryan Hendricks/Brian Salke - $90
2 - Jesse Rhode/John Scully - $45
3 - Doug Steele/Holly Minnig - $20
4 - Pat Hutson/Steve Taylor
5 - Bill Sheldon/Bill Ash
5 - Bill Nolan/Rick Weirman
7 - Adrienne McCormack/Scott Young
4/2/2015
Topic:
Interim League 4/1/2015

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Handicapped DYP
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1 - Daniel Blech/Johnny Valles - $64
2 - David Gilitiuk/Phill Tran - $32
3 - Brian Salke/Travis Hubred - $14
4 - Holly Minnig/Ricky Chun
5 - Jim Sherman/Joshua Radas
5 - Paul Freund/Ashtien M.
7 - Brian Sternberg/Dustin Hubred
7 - Tim Friesen/Rulon Smith
9 - Nolan Gorney/Rick Weirman
9 - Scott Young/Jim King
4/9/2015
Topic:
Stinger's 4/4/2015

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ROTO DYP
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1 - Jesse Rhode/Bryan Hendricks - $90
2 - Brian Salke/Gary Elston - $50
3 - Jeff Minnig/Holly Minnig - $14
4 - Tim Friesen/Bill Nolan
5 - Eric Friesen/Jim King
5 - Rick Wierman/Paul Freund
7 - Scott Young/Josh Radas

HANDICAPPED SINGLES
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1 - Eric Friesen
2 - Rick Weirman
3 - Jeff Minnig
4 - Bill Nolan
5 - Scott Young
5 - Holly Minnig
7 - Mitch Thatcher
7 - Josh Radas


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