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3/31/2016 Topic: Interim League 3/30/2016 BillyBoy Administrator	HANDICAPPED ROTO BYP ----------------------------------------------- 1 - Steve Mathews/Holly Minnig - $88 2 - Kevin Miller/Del Compton - $44 3 - Ken Oglesby/Tyler Troupe - $16 4 - Jim King/Ronnie Garrett 5 - Bob Duncan/Rulon Smith 5 - Phill Tran/Brian Sternberg 7 - Adrienne McCormack/Leanne Diliberto 7 - Bill Nolan/Jim Dickson 9 - Rick Marmelstein/Scott Young 9 - Jim King/Paul Freund
4/5/2016 Topic: Saturday Scrimmages (Interim League) 4/2/2016 BillyBoy Administrator	HANDICAPPED DYP ---------------------------------------- 1 - Rick Weirman/Leanne Diliberto - $54 2 - Paul Freund/Josh Radas - $26 3 - Tyler Troupe/Kevin Miller 4 - Bill Nolan/Karyl Pickering 5 - Matt Canterbury/Bridget Pedersen 5 - Adrienne McCormack/Matt Canterbury
4/5/2016 Topic: Saturday Scrimmages (Interim League) 4/2/2016 BillyBoy Administrator	Congrats to Leanne for getting her feet wet and taking down her first tournament! Many more to come!
4/7/2016 Topic: Interim League FINALE 4/6/2016 BillyBoy Administrator	* WARRIOR-TORNADO SMACKDOWN * HANDICAPPED ROTO BYP --------------------------------------- 1 - Kevin Miller/Del Compton - $66 2 - Jim Dickson/Scott Young - $30 3 - Jim King/Paul Freund - $12 4 - Matt Canterbury/Rulon Smith 5 - Steve Mathews/Adrienne McCormack 5 - Travis Hubred/Ken Oglesby 7 - Phill Tran/Brian Sternberg 7 - Bill Nolan/Bob Duncan
4/18/2016 Topic: Dukes adds DYP! BillyBoy Administrator	Here are my thoughts on three points/issues raised thus far in this thread... 1) Hi-Lo & handicapped events. It was suggested that such events haven't worked for Stinger's, so why bring them to Duke's? I do not believe this is the case. If you look at all the data, the effect of the handicapped events on turnouts has actually been positive. E.g., the 12 Limited at Stinger's had the largest turnouts of any event type. The Loft regularly runs a Hi-Low with an excellent turnout. And the handicapped Interim League events have been a big success over the years. As well, the first Hi-Low at Duke's seems to have done well. 2) Singles events at Duke's. I can understand the criticism of singles. I personally love the singles events, but alas, my personal taste has little to do with what is best for the whole scene. I don't really know if the current format is optimal. But I know that Brad is certainly paying attention and wants to make the overall Duke's experience as best as possible, and sometimes you just have to try things and see how they go. So, that's where we are right now - people are registering opinions and suggestions; Brad can take those comments, plus what he hears on the floor, plus all the tournament data, and then make the right adjustments. I hope that singles finds a happy place in the rotation; let's work on it! 3) Saturday night event at Duke's. Although I'm certain the suggestion to host Saturday events at Duke's was made with good intentions (and offered by two of the most respected persons & assets in our player base, Ricky Chun and Chris Serrao), I believe it would have a deleterious effect on Arizona foosball as a whole. This seems as good a time as any to offer a perspective on our great foosball scene in Phoenix... I will start by making a grandiose statement about AZ Fooball: Arizona is currently home to one of the best foosball scenes in the nation. I will not be surprised if we become the #1 foosball location on the planet with a year or two. And Duke's Sports Bar is the golden nugget of AZ Foosball. However... None of this happened by accident or random chance. On the contrary, the recent high turnouts, the state championship events, big tournament add-ons, tours, and leagues (indeed, everything we see in place now) are all the result of years of hard work and specific, cooperative effort by many directors, sponsors, venues, AND players. All of this is nice, indeed! But you may be asking what it has to do with the topic. (?) It has to do with the big picture. It's natural to think "hey, we have a lot of great things happening right now and we have a fantastic playing venue in Duke's Sports Bar - so why not move everything there?" But we all need to understand that we are involved in an economic system of sorts, and in order to grow to our fullest potential valleywide, we have to work closely with our sponsors and host venues valleywide. Stinger's Sports Bar and the Loft Again are critical venues for AZ Foosball. Stinger's is a large bar on the west side of Phoenix providing space for three tables. They have been very supportive of AZ Foosball over the years, adding tons of money to tournaments and are the primary sponsor of the league. The Loft has supported us tremendously as well, giving Ken Oglesby, Gary Cooper and Adrienne McCormack what they need to create success, as well as being the primary sponsor of the Phoenix Tour. Adding a Saturday event at Duke's would likely adversely affect turnouts at Stinger's on Saturday, and probably the Loft on Sunday as well. In turn, if those venues lost appeal or if either venue decided to drop foosball altogether, we could lose valuable exposure valleywide, including sponsorship to tours and leagues, new recruits into the league, and risk losing some of the people who are currently involved in running and promoting foosball around the valley. None of this is meant to say that such moves are never good; it's all about balance and timing. At the present time, such a move, IMHO, could be a big mistake. We may reach a point where such moves would be positive (e.g., when there is enough growth valleywide to support it without endangering a critical part of the structure). One only needs to look at a game like billiards to see this scenario. We are not there yet. While it's certainly important for each of us to voice opinions, concerns and suggestions, it's equally important to hear the voices of everyone involved - including the venues and the new players. Even though I personally (being a low level "High" player) may prefer an open event to a high-low draw, I also like knowing that those open events have big turnouts specifically because we've successfully grown our player base by offering handicapped style events to new players. In summary, I'm hoping that players can look at this big picture and realize just how far we've come with AZ Foosball and the big reasons for its success. I believe that the more each of us understands the whole machine that we are a part of, the more powerful it will become! edited by BillyBoy on 4/18/2016 edited by BillyBoy on 4/21/2016
4/19/2016 Topic: Teammates Needed for Jester's Team! BillyBoy Administrator	Our new AZ Foosball League just kicked off and we have a team based out of Jester's on Gilbert Road that is still looking for teammates. If you live in that area and would like to give the league a shot, please respond here or contact me @ 602-752-8818. - Bill Nolan P.S. The Jester's team had a week 1 bye, so there is still a full season ahead!
4/19/2016 Topic: Dukes adds DYP! BillyBoy Administrator	I like the idea of pairing the singles with the DYPs. The brings are a little bit more serious so it can make some sense not to disrupt them as much.
4/21/2016 Topic: DYP Foos Madness! BillyBoy Administrator	I love it! And I also love the way you have considered ways it could affect turnout and the overall environment. Yeah, I have thought about coding up support for something like that, but realistically would be sometime down the road. Plus, running it online could involve some potential legal issues. In the meantime, oughta be simple enough to do manually if somebody wanted to own it and manage it!
4/23/2016 Topic: Pics & Promo Stuff BillyBoy Administrator	The promo computer is repaired and back online. All the tournament pics you've sent in will be getting uploaded over the next couple days! edited by BillyBoy on 4/23/2016
4/26/2016 Topic: Saturday Scrimmages (Interim League) 4/23/2016 BillyBoy Administrator	HANDICAPPED ROTO DYP --------------------------------------- 1 - Dan Packer/Vivek Arora - $48 2 - Josh Radas/Adrienne McCormack - $25 3 - Kevin Miller/Paul Freund 4 - Rick Weirman/Leanne Diliberto 5 - Bill Nolan/Travis Hubred
4/28/2016 Topic: Rollerball Rules BillyBoy Administrator	I would advise using Arizona Foosball League rules for this game. The rules for specialty games in the ITSF rule book are incomplete and inadequate in a number of ways. This is especially true for 2 ball roller ball and maybe even more so for one ball roller ball since the game isn't included in the book at all. We've used many of these games in our league for years so we've addressed many of these issues and nuances there. In most cases, the adjustments made in the AFL rule book were established after speaking to ITSF officials and pro masters in an effort to come to the best resolutions.
4/28/2016 Topic: Rollerball Rules BillyBoy Administrator	There are differeneces, and there may be arguments if they aren't addressed. The reference to ITSF rules refer to foosball in general, NOT 1 ball rollerball, as there are no such rules. In addition, our league rules for 2 ball rollerball address and resolve several problems in the ITSF rules. Issues that, IMHO, must be resolved for any kind of competitive play - and yet never have been. edited by BillyBoy on 4/28/2016
4/28/2016 Topic: Rollerball Rules BillyBoy Administrator	Okay up until now I've been posting just from general memory about the rollerball situation in the past. But now you got me to look at the rules verbatim again. LOL Yes, your interpretation of AFL rules for 1 ball seems straightforward, but there is a subtlety concerning stopped ball rules defined under "pinned balls". I will clarify this by editing the rule to say "standard ITSF rules with the inclusion of stopped/pinned ball violations". The other distinctions apply to 2 ball only.
4/29/2016 Topic: Rollerball Rules BillyBoy Administrator	The latest versions of both AFL and ITSF rules are on the website under leagues/match docs
5/1/2016 Topic: Saturday Scrimmages 4/30/2016 BillyBoy Administrator	HANDICAPPED BYP ------------------------------- 1 - Dan Held/Travis Hubred - $66 2 - Bill Nolan/Rick Weirman - $32 3 - Dan Packer/Paul Freund - $8 4 - Terry Kilwein/Adrienne McCormack 5 - Ken Oglesby/Steve Taylor 5 - Kevin Miller/Leanne Diliberto 7 - Josh Radas/Tyler Troupe
5/8/2016 Topic: Saturday Scrimmages (Interim League) 5/7/2016 BillyBoy Administrator	1 - Eric Friesen/Tim Friesen - $90 2 - Paul Freund/Rick Weirman - $40 3 - Dan Packer/Josh Radas - $10 4 - Jeff Minnig/Rick Marmelstein 5 - Kevin Miller/Del Compton 5 - Bob Duncan/Dave Gilitiuk 7 - Adrienne McCormack/Leanne Diliberto 7 - Ken Oglesby/Tyler Troupe 9 - Travis Hubred/Casey Nelson 9 - Mike Sames/Holly Minnig 9 - Steve Taylor/Casey Nelson
5/16/2016 Topic: Saturday Scrimmages 5/14/2016 BillyBoy Administrator	HANDICAPPED ROLLERBALL DYP ------------------------------------------------ 1 - Rick Weirman/Dave Gilitiuk - $54 2 - Adrienne McCormack/Del Compton - $28 3 - Holly Minnig/Leanne Diliberto 4 - Tyler Troupe/Paul Freund 5 - Bill Nolan/Travis Hubred 5 - Steve Mathews/Travis Hubred
5/24/2016 Topic: Saturday Scrimmages 5/21/2016 BillyBoy Administrator	HANDICAPPED BYP ---------------------------------- 1 - Bill Nolan/Tyler Troupe - $48 2 - Rick Weirman/Casey Nelson - $28 3 - Kevin Miller/Del Compton 4 - Dan Packer/Travis Hubred 5 - Travis Hubred/Paul Freund
6/2/2016 Topic: Saturday Scrimmages (Interim League) 5/28/2016 BillyBoy Administrator	HANDICAPPED SUPER ROTO BYP ---------------------------------------------------- 1 - Holly Minnig/Dan Packer - $80 2 - Del Compton/Kevin Miller - $40 3 - Tyler Troupe/Jesse Rhode - $20 4 - Bill Nolan/Rick Weirman 5 - Jeff Minnig/Adrienne McCormack 5 - Steve Taylor/Josh Radas 7 - Paul Freund/Bob Duncan 7 - Eric Friesen/Tim Friesen 9 - Gary Cooper/Leanne Diliberto
6/13/2016 Topic: Saturday Scrimmages (Interim League) 6/11/2016 BillyBoy Administrator	HANDICAPPED ROTO BYP ---------------------------------------- 1 - Eric Friesen/Tim Friesen 2 - Travis Hubred/Tony Dardano 3 - Rick Weirman/Paul Freund 4 - Kevin Miller/Del Compton 5 - Steve Mathews/Leanne Diliberto 5 - Adrienne McCormack/Leanne Diliberto