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8/12/2011 Topic: Stingers Tournament Schedule graykat777	Sorry Billy. The High-Lows designations that JB ran at Main Street were determined by how well JB knew your game, at least when I played. That's why I was in the "low" ranking whenever I played. So I only went by my experiences. I did not know that there is a ranking list by which High-Low is always determined. I didn't mean anything by that. BillyBoy wrote: "Standard"? It's never been done like that. Dan F., J.B., and I kept the points on NetFoos for 2 years from the Main Street and Clicks tournaments. Beware the foosball grapevine.
8/22/2011 Topic: Results from last weekend graykat777	Would you tourney directors mind posting the results from the Friday and Saturday nights? I know the chart from Cactus Moon on Friday most likely has some broken glass, blood and beer all over it, but it should still be readable. Thanks, <em>edited by graykat777 on 8/22/2011</em>
8/25/2011 Topic: Spinning the Rod graykat777	We (I) had an discussion (argument) regarding spinning the rod. The two of us agreed that the rod was spun, but could not agree on where the ball was to be placed. Here's the scoop, and please anybody watching this at our league match last night chime in if I describe it incorrectly. So, the goalie had the ball and was clearing. He shot but spun (we agreed) but I said the spot at his 2 rod was the "site of the occurrence" , he disagreed and said that where the ball ended up (after some bouncing around it was on his 3rod) is the "site of occurrence". So his ruling was to give the ball to the opponent on the 5. My ruling as that the ball goes back to the opponents 3. Our discussion centered around if the spin infraction immediatly stops play. I found this discussion on the foosball board from 2010: http://foosballboard.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=6640&highlight=spin Please feel free to chime in! <em>edited by graykat777 on 8/25/2011</em>
8/25/2011 Topic: Spinning the Rod graykat777	The article to which I linked mentions "the old rules". The old rules further defines the the instance. The definition, as I had known it for many years, is that the spin infraction stops play. Right now. It does not stop play "as soon as somebody can possibly stop the ball", which was the definition my opponent claimed. I claim that play stops as soon as a spin is called. I mean, it's like a table jar where the play stops immediatly upon the jar regardless of where the ball ended up once somebody could possibly pin it with a player figure. And I'm not sure why you said " The rules say "If a ball is advanced by an illegal spin the opposing team will have the option of continuing play from the current position or to serve the ball. "Without any further explanation one must assume this simply means "wherever the ball is" and does not imply that a player can physically pick it up or stop the ball "wherever it is" (bouncing, rolling, etc.) and play it from THERE. That is, the opposing team can either "play on", or stop play and take it on his/her five.The only thing that seems in question here (but doesn't seem to apply to your situation last night) is how long the opposing team has to claim the ball on their five. Obviously, if they make a play on it, it is obvious; but what if they let it roll around and let the other team swing at it?" You weren't there to see that, and I was right there watching. If you were told that the opponent was still swinging at the ball to signify continuation, that did not come up in our onsite discussions (argument). I know that was not the case because I was screaming "Spin"! and "Stop!". Our only discussion on the table was where the infraction actually occurred which set up the placement of the ball. edited by graykat777 on 8/25/2011 edited by graykat777 on 8/25/2011 <em>edited by graykat777 on 8/25/2011</em>
9/20/2011 Topic: Stingers 9/17/2011 graykat777	BillyBoy wrote: Two new guys. I don't know where Bryan went... They were locals who were playing each other when signups happened. They had been watching us warm up and wanted to see how they measured up. They are nice guys. I think they will come back. Newbies.
10/22/2011 Topic: British championships are streaming free graykat777	I'm watching the British open on netfoos.tv today. It's being streamed for free all day today and tomorrow. It's great!
1/22/2012 Topic: Local Points graykat777	There are 2 bridgets there chambie wrote: NAME UPDATED S, Randy 2172 B, Nick 1966 S, Don 1900 D, John 1736 H, Pat 1572 V, Johnny 1557 H, Rhett 1538 P, David 1486 T, Steve 1465 T, TJ 1421 S, JB 1413 W, Mark 1286 L, Brad 1184 M, Derek 1159 C, Brad 1150 S, Doug 1146 S, Joe 1146 B, Eric 1142 N, Casey 1109 N, Bill 1104 S, Mike 1099 C, Gary 1077 H, Jeff 1068 O, Kenny 1049 G, Jessie 1037 D, Mark 1037 S, Chris 1003 L, Mike 996 R, Noel 962 B, Tony 944 W, Harry 939 ??, Rob 936 M, Dan 930 W, Jeremy 918 G, Chad 916 T, Daniel 911 Z, Ben 902 W, Tanner 900 Husband, Tom 896 Miller, Mike 888 K, Trevor 882 P, Mark 865 Y, Eric 804 Y, Scott 782 C, Mia 776 F, Dave 771 ???, Albert 736 C, Jason 733 c, rickey 722 ???, Dominic 715 B, Daniel 714 W, Dan 705 P, Chris 704 F, Reno 702 P, Danny 699 ???, Eric 699 H, DJ 693 M, Eric 689 L, Peyton 688 M, Deigo 684 P, Kenny 682 V, Ben 680 X, Pete 678 ???, Brian 678 Z, David 678 ???, Adam 676 ???, Matt 676 W, Jason 674 ??, Appa 673 g, rich 670 L, John 670 ???, Greg 667 ???, Miles 665 F, Jimi 664 H, Travis 663 S, Jeff 652 G, Nolan 651 L, Rich 648 M, Shane 647 H, Jim 647 T, Sam 637 P, Bridgette 628 P, Bridget 565 Meyer, Mike 537 M, Tony 519 M, Adrianne 469 -58 edited by chambie on 1/22/2012
3/4/2012 Topic: Who was that guy? graykat777	I was watching "Ben C" from Albuquerque last night. What a smooth game! Smart and powerful. What is his last name?
3/12/2012 Topic: Viva Las Vegas....... graykat777	I'll be there Casey
3/31/2012 Topic: Is there any tournaments or leagues in Prescott? graykat777	There have been a number of good players in Prescott over the years. I'm not sure who is up there now. I understand that the Drunken Lass Irish Pub has a table. I'm not sure what brand, I haven't seen it. That may be a nice road trip sometime soon though. I know that the Embry-Riddle Aeronautical Institute has a Tornado in the student union. I interviewed for a job up there a couple of years ago. There is a pub on the west side of Prescott that sits in the shadow of a large Ford dealer ship that had 4 tables at one time, you might want to check that out. Lizard's bar had a table a few years ago, you might check that out too. It's about a block from the Drunken Lass. Hope that helps. Maybe you can organize something up there. <em>edited by graykat777 on 4/1/2012</em>
4/4/2012 Topic: Where to play in Mesa? graykat777	Jen, I was at the HOF last week and I was talking to folks about what we have going on here in Arizona. To a person, they were surprised and thrilled to hear it. We have 2 tourneys each week, Friday and Saturday. We have some intermittant tourneys too like the Phoenix-Tucson Challenge (with a travelling trophy). We had eight of our players go to the HOF and bring back what they learned. We have a league that's been going on now about five years. The leagues have grown the player base like nothing I have ever seen (I've been playing foos for over 30 years). The league means we have competitive foosball in six or seven different locations valley-wide. There are folks who get together at each others homes to play, there are women as well as men playing. We have beginners, intermediate players and old pros. Want Pro-masters? Try Don Swan, Randy Stark and Johnny Valles. Want flavor? We usually have players from Albuquerque, Tucson, El Paso, San Diego and LA come to our larger tournies. Need I say more? We have quite the community going on here and you would be welcome. And there is no snow here. I know, I know... you can't keep your beer cold in the trunk of your car like you can in MN, but the palm trees and wonderful seasons (except Summer of course) are enough to pull up roots and get down here. Come soon so you can ease into the Summer. CU soon! edited by graykat777 on 4/4/2012 <em>edited by graykat777 on 4/4/2012</em>
4/4/2012 Topic: Suspended Players graykat777	d.s.young wrote: if i said," Bill Nolan is a transvestite and i know where he dances." Would this be a bannable offense ? Please let me know............thanks in advance for your cooperation Do all Transvestits dance?
4/5/2012 Topic: Where to play in Mesa? graykat777	BillyBoy wrote: We also have an array of characters here that would put the Village People (c) to shame. E.g., there are guys like this Casey fellow, who will buy you a beer and then proceed to be very inconsiderate with his 3 bar I am rather inconsiderate with my 3.
5/8/2012 Topic: Three Amigos are Western Conference Champs! graykat777	Way to go, guys!!
5/16/2012 Topic: i am the four time league stud and you are not! graykat777	This past weekend I won my fourth League Stud in about six seasons. I have set a record that will not be matched for years to come. From my experience of being the player with the highest winning percentage for so many times I have learned some valuable lessons. The first of which is that I am not that good. I play well, but my success is based upon and supplemented by being a part of a team. The team effort is the reason I do good. I am a team player. You should be one too. If you don't encourage your teammates, if you don't go out of your way to make sure your teammates have everything you can provide to excel themselves, you will not be the league stud. Ever. If you refuse to put your own self interest aside and work to bring out the best in your teammates I will win the league stud again. I will take it from your grasp. I will leave you longing for the title. I will be the object of your frustration because of your own failure, not because of any virtuosity on my part. Teamwork is the answer. Here is how you start: When you are in a draw play your best, be a role model, and always notice what your partner is doing right and encourage them. The proper encouragement will instill confidence in your partner. This wil also build your confidence. You will be a better player. When you are there, I'll see you. Good luck in the coming season. Casey Nelson P.S. I want to thank my partners Tom Husband and Josh Oliver for helping me attain this goal. Thanks guys! edited by graykat777 on 5/16/2012 <em>edited by graykat777 on 5/16/2012</em>
7/13/2012 Topic: July Points: What is this? (877 points) graykat777	Professional De Rosa, Fernando 2384 Stark, Randy 2172 Swan, Don 1851 Bourdos, Nick 1828 Cervantes, Ezequiel 1822 Barthlow, Jay 1756 Davis, John 1737 Jensen, Corey 1720 Cardenas, Ben 1635 Stachelek, Evan 1600 Expert Herring, Rhett 1538 Prieto, Mike 1528 Telles, Steve 1522 Hutson, Pat 1502 Pesce, David 1486 Garrick, John 1482 Valles, Johnny 1463 DeTomaso, Chad 1446 Maria, Jerome 1430 F, Brenden 1398 Telles, TJ 1392 Scully, John 1390 Hicks, Teddy 1389 Waggoner, Mark 1294 Chamberlain, Brad 1273 Rhode, Jessie 1234 Sames, Mike 1220 Sanchez, Eric 1214 L, Brad 1187 Serrao, Chris 1185 Martin, Derek 1159 Steele, Doug 1137 Borkovec, Eric 1135 Cooper, Gary 1121 Nolan, Bill 1101 Marmelstein, Rick 1100 Harvey, Jeff 1069 Stock, Joe 1058 Lawrence, Mike 1056 G, Jessie 1051 Nelson, Casey 1041 Rooney, Noel 1032 Wettlaufer, Jeremy 1028 Pesce, Guy 1000 Mosier, Darin 1000 Amateur DeOlivera, Mark 993 Oglesby, Kenny 967 Billups, Tony 950 ?, Rob 942 White, Harry 933 Martin, Dan 932 Minning, Jeff 932 Nethery, Kathy 930 Flores, Dave 926 G, Chad 922 Young, Scott 915 T, Daniel 913 Mara, Brandon 902 Husband, Tom 901 Wintworth, Tanner 900 Doyle, Dennis 900 Crum, Debora 900 M, David 896 Minning, Holly 896 barker, pat 896 Miller, Mike 890 Hubbred, Jim 887 man, x 877 WTF?!!!! Chun, Ricky 869 smith, dallas 867 King, Jim 854 Loomis, Rich 832 Proctor, Mark 827 Pagenkof, Chris 825 B, Daniel 824 Young, Eric 816 Blech, Daniel 800 Beginner Savarese, Jeff 766 Cardarelli, Mia 760 Zuniga, Ben 758 ???, Albert 742 Collicott, Jason 733 Dix, Mark 716 ??, Justin 715 ???, Dominic 709 W, Dan 709 Johnson, Miles 709 Newmeyer, Rob 708 ???, Max 706 F, Reno 705 ??, Aaron 701 ?, Trip 701 DeVoe, Jiva 700 Sirmer, Matthew 700 Ritchie, Curt 700 ???, Eric 698 P, Danny 698 Hibberd, DJ 695 G, Kyle 691 M, Eric 690 ??, Landin 690 ?, Tre 690 P, Kenny 689 K, Trevor 689 L, Peyton 687 ???, Matt 682 Moya, Deigo 682 Z, David 682 Voornbrock, Ben 680 X, Pete 678 Williams, Jason 677 L, John 671 ??, Appa 671 ???, Adam 670 F, Jimi 666 C, Jeff 665 F, Zach 665 g, rich 665 Hibbard, Travis 664 Gorney, Nolan 655 McClara, Shane 650 ???, Brian 647 ???, Greg 639 Pedersen, Bridget 632 Tinsley, Sam 631 Myers, Mike 551 McCormack, Adrianne 539 McCormack, Tony 522 <em>edited by graykat777 on 7/13/2012</em>
8/2/2012 Topic: 2012 winter graykat777	Hard to concentrate at 2:15AM, huh?
8/7/2012 Topic: Wednesday August 8: Where to play? graykat777	Hey, where are you going to be playing this Wed? Tell me and I'll come join you. Maybe I'll bring a friend! Yes, You! Tell me! I'm already Jones'n
10/27/2012 Topic: North Central Sports Bar - 12th St and Northern graykat777	I went to the North Central Sports Bar with a friend the other night to check out the place. A couple of folks in the forum have already done so but I wanted to give a full report on the foosball table. Here are some photos: http://imgur.com/a/D0qLS#0 It's a tornado, so you know it can stand up to some play. The rods were like sandpaper though and the ball was one of those cheap while plastic things you find on an entry level sportcraft or harvard table. I suggest you bring your own. The lighting is iffy, but it does have a clamp-on desk lamp above the table that you can adjust to shine on the playing surface. Be ready for the shadows. My conclusion is that this table is one to avoid unless you are merely playing casually (and can bring your own foos balls, silicone and cleaning supplies) . Considering the number of good tables around the area I'll steer clear. Closest good table: Dubliners (just 6 minutes north on the 51).
10/28/2012 Topic: Rules be damned? graykat777	During our most previous league match, my opponent took a time out. Then my opponent conversed with another player (away from the table), then another. Timeouts last 30 seconds, but this timeout was much longer. When I pleaded for the match to continue one of the other players (not playing that evening) momentarily got angry and shouted "You are calling rules?!" My question is this: Do you, as a league member, believe that the standard rules of foosball play (and sportsmanship) are distinctly different than rules of league play? I can see if somebody need to go the bathroom, calls time and takes a little longer. Or if they get an emergency phone call, but my tolerance does not include calling time to get another drink, or to have a smoke or to talk with friends. Your tolerance should not either. Please don't get me wrong, I do enjoy the relaxed attitude at the league events. Some libation, some music playing, jokes and light conversation. But I understand that the rules of foos have been created to keep the games (which can be intense) fair. To keep the game fair each player must observe the rules. Rules are not created to make your life harder or to make the game one-sided. But it certainly feel like it if you, or more likely your opponents, do not abide by them. Thinking that rules are to be stretched or dismissed can lead to fights, which lends a social blow to our game, but it also leads to misunderstandings that can fester and flair at the most inopportune time. When we fight among ourselves in public our sport will maintain the reputation of being rough and crass. This reputation will keep newcomers from joining in or spectating or encouraging others to pay any attention to us, to the game, to the sport. Rules rule! Follow them and expect your opponents to call you on your mistakes and oversights. Feel free to call rules on yourself and be ready to explain them to the newer players. rules: http://table-soccer.org/rules/documents/ITSFRulesEnglish.pdf Thanks for reading this. I invite comments. <em>edited by graykat777 on 10/28/2012</em>